Ok, the silk pillow was a bit much. Still though, I am amazed at how many thumbs down I get when my only answer isn’t ‘call your vet.’ If the question was, ‘what do I do if I can’t reach my vet for whatever reason, what do I do now?’ The vet is already out of the picture.
A dog can have Tylonal, a dog can have Tums. This is a mammel. It is not a bird, not a reptile. I’m no fan of animal testing, but things tested on animals back in the 50s, won’t hurt them now. An animal can be treated for most sicknesses and injuries at home.
If you lived with dogs and vets on a farm miles away from nothing for most of your life than you would know that. Why am I bad cause I do?
If I called my vet at 2 in the morning, she’ll tell me that my dog better be bleeding or on fire.
So back before my rant. Why am I so ‘thumbs down’ for not running to the vet for everything, even if I recommend a call to the vet anyway?
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I didn’t see your original question, but I do agree for the most part.
I live in an area where, as you said, the dog better be on fire if I am to call a vet. I work as a vet tech but out of this town by an hour. There is no vet nearby except a LA vet… and he’s going to tell how to treat at home. THIS is what they do HERE. This is what I do… but I’m qualified.
Yes, you can learn to treat you dogs at home….but not all dogs can have Tylenol. Some vets are dead set against it.
Then again, there are those who think it’s ok to treat the dog themselves… those are the ones who deserve the ‘take dog to vet’ response.
Dogs may be mammals, but that does not mean they have the same physiology as humans. I haven’t read any of your answers, but if you’re recommending that people give paracetamol (tylenol outside the US) to their pets you deserve any ‘thumbs down’ that you get.
It is true that dogs are more tolerant to paracetamol than cats but overdose still occurs easily. I will not quote amounts as I don’t want to give anyone ideas, but the toxic dose is not high. Paracetamol doesn’t cause kidney problems. In animals, the most common result of overdose is methaemoglobinaemia, which interferes with the ability of the red blood cells to carry oxygen. It may also (as in humans) cause liver damage.
Many injuries and illnesses CAN’T be treated at home. Yes, the owner can provide basic first-aid to their animal if a vet is not an immediate option but anything more than a minor injury or illness warrants a phone call to the vet at the very least. A surprising number of people lack even a grain of common sense.
People should never give their dogs human medications. Although many drugs are the same as those used animals, they’re often in different formulations and different dosages. Not only that, but you cannot extrapolate from human doses- as I said, different animals have a different physiological makeup and not only are the DOSES different but the DOSE RATES are often quite different as well.
When you’re qualified and giving competent advice you can complain about your answers getting ‘thumbs down’.
Yes.
Also, It’s not a form of Tylenol, it’s a form of ASPRIN.
Cause some asses on here must not like one of your answers or questions ..So they have it out for you..Childish huh
i agree and i do have something to say about this.they are home remidies for your dog out there if you know where to look even though it is always best to consult your vet NOT EVERYONE HAS THE MONEY TO SPEND ON THE VET everytime there is something wrong with your dog or cat.vets are expensive i took my cat in 4 weeks ago because he was running a fever i got charged 74 bucks my vet didnt even really know what was going on all he said was it COULD BE a virus so really all i could of gotten him was a fever reducer and he would of been set.we always call our vet first when there is something wrong and they always say BRING THEM IN AND SO ON.and we just say look I DONT HAVE THE MONEY TO BRING THEM IN NOR A WAY TO BRING THEM IN isnt there anything we can do at home and she will go ask the vet and vet will recommend home remedies but if it doesnt work we do bring them in but it always works.like for instance 2 weeks ago i was walking out of my room and i accidently stepped on my dog and cracked his nail he was bleeding a lot we called the vet she said bring him in but then we said what we always say and there was something you could do at home you are not a jerk for not going to the vet for everything as i mentioned before vets are expensive i love animals and i care for them but running to the vet for everything is not the answer because most of the time there is something you can do at home.and i dont care if i get a thumbs down in this but this is the reality now a days you cant run to the vet or doctor for every little thing or you will end up with a HUGE BILL AND IN DEBT.when you have animals there is vet stuff you learn how to do. we have 5 cats and 2 dogs we order the vaccine and give it to them ourselfs except rabies one vet has to do that by law do you realize that if we didnt do it we would spend 585 bucks on all 7 for the vet to do it we spend 80 bucks on the vaccines when we order them for all 7 and then go and get the rabies done in a low cost place where you only get charged for the shots and not the visit.lets see 50bucks for just being there plus whatever the vaccines cost FOR EACH ONE yea well like i said we would of spent 585.and some people on here are just not realistic.
Well, I don’t know which answers you got thumbs down on but I can tell you right now from a pharmacological aspect of things dogs *cannot* take everything that is suitable for human consumption just because they are mammals and we are mammals.
There are several medications that dogs can take with the proper dosing information but it’s always better to consult a vet before dosing your animal.
For example: You stated you can give your dog Tylenol… Uh, that would be incorrect. Dogs can have aspirin in very small doses (K9 aspirin would be ideal with dosing on the label and flavored for your dog) and benadryl for allergies if dosed correctly, or pepto bismol or immodium… but not tylenol.http://www.aspca.org/site/DocServer/vecc… << Please read that before referring anyone to allowing their dog to take tylenol or ibuprofen.
Also, dogs need to feel pain. If a dog pulled a muscle, and you give the dog a muscle relaxer or pain killer, the dog may feel well enough to run around full throttle yet it can cause serious long term damage to that muscle.
I hope this helps!
First off dogs can’t have Tylenol or tums.
Second it really depends on the question some people might be able to tell you somethings while others may not really know.
Is it worth risking your dogs life in serious situations?
Take to the vet is best advice to give especially if you aren’t sure what the real problem is with your dog. And most people on here are not vets!!!
Now there are some people who could help you until you can get your dog to the vet ASAP!! but this also depends on the situation!!
As far as thumbs down they really don’t mean anything (to me anyway)
I got lost after you said Ok!
I don’t know specifically about any of your answers, but I can tell you this:
When there is a question like, “My dog has been throwing up for 5 days, what should I do?”- Surely the vet’s office was open at SOME point during the 5 days! Or, “My dog’s face is sliding off of his skull, and he’s lying on the floor convulsing, what do I dog?”- duh- VET! Or, my personal favorite, “He has a lump on his side, what do I do?”
Even if every person on this list were a vet, these types of situations need VETERINARY assistance, not JimBob in accounting who used to own a chow in the 3rd grade and made an A in biology.
And, yes, some vets may prescribe Tyelonol, as well as other “human grade” drugs. BUT, their systems work differently than ours, and drugs are metabolized at different rates. Doses on ANY medication are very specific by weight. Why do you think most drugs are not suitable for children? Because their weights are so varied from one child to another. Try dosing a 3 pound kid? Giving ANY medication, whether over the counter or prescribed, should only be done under careful supervision by a vet.
Aspirin is ok, but not tylenol. Dog’s livers digest differently than humans. They can and do have liver issues with acetaminophen. I know a vet didn’t ok that drug.
And you are right about not every small thing being an emergency. Few of the problems listed here are extreme emergencies unless the dog is in immediate danger.
Tylenol, Advil or anything else containing acetaminophen is HIGHLY TOXIC TO ANIMALS and should NEVER be given!!
Please, for the pets sake, research some of your answers before just posting them!!!!!
Below is a very informative webpage about acetaminophen toxicity in pets (especially cats):http://www.catchannel.com/magazines/catf…
And it is also illegal to give out medical advise to people if you are not a trained professional (ie a vet!). If something was to happen to one of the pets that you thought you were helping by saying to give Tylenol, they have the legal right to sue you for false information & giving out medical advise.
And if you only care about the ratings that others are giving you, then maybe you shouldn’t be answering things about potentially serious medical problems/emergencies!
You are right that SOME THINGS can be treated at home, but it is always best to consult your vet (or an emergency vet in your area if you don’t want to wake your vet up!) BEFORE doing anything at home. Not only will you be able to get the correct information/help, but you’ll also be notifying your vet at the same time about what’s going on so they can follow up with you properly.
I’m sure you’ll find my “rant” to be “stupid,” but I’ve seen far too many medical problems with animals from people that were trying to do something at home to avoid the cost of bringing them in. And 90% of the time, those are the ones that end up paying alot more than they would have if they had called or brought it in in the first place.
How can you even think that a dog can have tylonal, you know someone can easily read what you just wrote and think its ok to give them tylonal and go ahead and give it to them, And YOU will be responsable for that dog being sick or even dead…… maybe next time you should get your facts before typing a load of bullshit.Oh and you should no matter what take your dog to the vet when he is sick…. there is always a way to get in-contact to a vet.
A dog can NOT have Tylenol, it can fry their kidneys, and if you CAN reach a vet then you should. Giving basic first aid advice, or do this UNTIL you can reach the vet, is entirely different from giving out faulty and potentially dangerous information when you obviously DON’T have any veterinary training and don’t have a clue what you are talking about. A dog may very well be a mammal, but it is NOT a human.
Just cause your vet gave your dog an anti-inflammatory, that does NOT mean it was Tylenol. There’s a lot of “tylenol-type drugs” aka NSAIDs out there.. and if your vet DOES give tylenol.. you need to find a new one.
In my opinion some people just haven’t got a clue so they simply answer go to the vet. I myself use as many natural treatments as I can with my dogs. I would not ask a question here about my dog being sick because all you get is uniformed opinions any way. Either wait to see the vet or ask a friend that has dogs also.
I am certain that if you told someone a dog could have tylenol, that you recieved many thumbs down. Your answer would not only have been incorrect, but could put someones dog in danger of dying if the person took your advice. If you are NOT a vet, and I dont think you are, you need to be very careful what you advise people to do on this site. I am also certain you wouldnt want to be responsible for the death of someones loved pet. There are many human drugs that are toxic to dogs, and if you havent had issues you are a very lucky person.
If someone is having a medical issue with their dog, the vet is the only reputable source to seek out, not strangers on the internet. Be responsible here.
Edit: Having now read the rest of your rant, I have come to the conclusion that you are dangerous, and I sincerely hope no one who has a sick dog takes your advice. Are you going to start talking about used motor oil now?
There was recently a question from a dog owner whose dog was foaming at the mouth. Now would you tell that owner that the dog had licked a toad, or would you tell that owner to take the dog to the vet? If I recall, one person told them not to take the dog to the vet, but the dog ended up having distemper.
You CANNOT diagnose over the internet! You have no idea what people may be leaving out of their descriptions of the symptoms!
Dogs cannot have Tylenol. It is highly toxic and can cause organ failure. Perhaps you should do some research before advising people how to kill their dogs. Simply because dogs are MAMMALS (notice the correct spelling), does not mean that they have the same physiology as humans.
Oh man please do some research before you write this stuff down. A dog CANNOT HAVE TYLENOL. It’s poisin, you could kill your dog. Sometimes people don’t know as much about dogs as others, so the vet is the right person to call. I agree don’t over do it, but sometimes people will ignore symptoms to avoid the vet and the bills etc. A dog CAN have pepto bismol, its recommended to stop diarrhea, but if things persist a vet is neccessary. DO NOT write in your question that dogs can have tylenol, anybody who knows anything about dogs knows ITS POISON. Ask your vet next time you go, please.
Some people here, are just very bleek, and are set on one thing. I got the exact same reply, only it had to do with puppy mills, when I asked about buying a Dog and seeing if he was compatable with my other dog.
Quite honestly, don’t mind these people. They are trying to live in an idealistic world. Which, just isn’t possible. You’re not a BAD person for not taking your dog to the vet for everything. Vet’s are costly, you’re just a human. You should look after yourself first, you’re Human, and then the dog comes second. Sure, you may love your dog, but as a human, looking from a religious point of view, we are the ones who have souls. Do you see what I’m coming to?
I’m probably going to get many thumbs down, but it’s the truth. What would be evil, is leaving a very sick child, not to see the doctor, because you couldn’t afford it. this is evil. At the end of the day, when you know it’s not serious, and you can treat it yourself, then don’t bother with a vet. Call if you can, but if that’s not an option, there isn’t much you can do. People survived without vets for the longest time, many years ago. We can do it today too. It’s bad enough we rely so heavily on drugs already!
Hope this helps, don’t let all those thumbs down get you down. It’s not worth it!
I agree. Sometimes you look at someones question and all you see is a page full of “call the vet”. I think that is as bad or worse than no answer at all.
PS I wouldn’t give my dog tylenol but I would give him aspirin in an emergency.
About aspirin / tylenol http://www.school-for-champions.com/anim…
I get the same thing. I have 5 dogs, I don’t just run to the vet everytime there is a problem, I have learned to keep medications on hand at all times, and also symptoms so I know if it is anything serious, of course if my dog is sick, they are run to the vet immediately. Most people that ask questions on here probably can’t afford to take the dog to the vet, so they are looking for help. I also think people are too scared to give out their opinions on what they can do for the animal because maybe you can get into trouble for giving medical advice? I will tell people what I think, if the problem can be solved at home, there is no need for a vet visit. Another thing is “get a professional trainer!” I’m sorry, but I have been training for 10 years, and I am also a handler in the schutzhund sport, if someone reads enough, and has the desire to learn, they can be taught with words. Not everyone can afford a “professional” trainer.
Use buffered aspirin, not tylenol, though.
Also, I have many vet friends, and have for a long time, so I know A LOT. Yes, I was told by my vet that I could give my senior dog buffered aspirin for her arthritis. I might get yelled at for that too! ^_^
You can give your dog pepcid AC, and Zantac 75, I have known people to use Tums, but I don’t.
I’m an animal lover, but I’m also practical (and I’m far from wealthy). We have dogs, cats, and a farm full of chickens, rabbits, sheep and goats. You learn to do alot of your own vet work or you will have the vet out to your home weekly. I’ve tattooed for show, delivered breach kids, give injections… it’s not all pleasant, but I want to make sure my animals are happy and healthy – and we’re not all homeless because my vet is on salary with us.
There is alot to be said about purchasing a basic veterinary manual. When you have children, you buy the Dr. Spock book or What to Expect… You educate yourself and don’t push the panic button every time something sneezes. Part of being a responsible pet owner is educating yourself about the animal, the breed and its care.
Sometimes owning animals is a learning process. When I first got into goats, I spent over $1,000 on vet bills trying to save a pygmy buck from kidney stones (unsuccessfully). The lesson learned was if I was better educated on the severity of stones, how to prevent them in the first place, and the extremely low recovery rate, I would’ve humanely had him euthanized. He had several surgeries and suffered instead.
Both my domestic vet and my farm vet are great, but they also rely on owners to exercise some restraint in their “emergency” calls. If you know your animals and their general health, it is pretty easy to determine an emergency from a routine office visit to nothing serious at all.
guess i am fortunate. i have a great vet but also common sense. when in doubt, i can call her or the emergency vet service. if you stay calm, use a bit of common sense, your vet would probably like you a lot better
I agree with you. You’re not a bad dog owner. I live on a farm too so minor things are fixed at home first. If symtoms persist or get worse, then I take them to the vet.
You are not a vet, therefore, you should not be giving out medical advice as if you were. Giving a dog Tylenol is NOT recommended and you could make someone’s dog very sick.
If someone does not know what is wrong with their dog, then yes, they should contact a vet.
There is a difference between an “emergency” and a “non-emergency”. You dog has diarrhea? That’s a non-emergency. You dropped a super-sharp kitchen knife and it stabbed 3 inches into your dog? That’s an emergency.
I also don’t buy the excuse “but I live on a farm”. Guess what. *I* grew up on a farm in the middle of nowhere, and we had access to multiple vets if we needed one. They may have been in the surrounding towns, but if it’s an emergency and an animal needs care right then instead of waiting until morning, it’s not a big deal to drive a few more miles. We took a sheep to the vet a 2am one time because it tried to impale itself on a fencepost. Our vet showed up to her clinic in her PJs, but she came.
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Because the “thumbs down” makes people feel powerful. I’ve noticed on this site that if your way of raising an animal isn’t exactly like someone elses way, it’s automatically wrong.
For example, I feel sorry for the people who come on here asking legit breeding questions and get all kinds of rude answers. Everyone has to learn somehow and asking questions is the best way to go about it. I know from experiance that just researching on the internet can be confusing and misleading. Just because they ask a question, it doesn’t mean that they are going to go out and start the next puppy mill… they could just have a general curiosity.
People also like to force spay/neuter down your throat here as well. As far as I’m concerned, if your dog isn’t making babies and there is no chance if they will, then it’s your choice whether or not to get them fixed. I got more thumbs down for this answer than I’ve ever recieved thumbs up on 2 questions combined.
As far as medicines go, you are completely right. (actually its asprin, and not tylenol) Dogs can also have pepto bismol. I know because I’ve had a vet tell me and my father to give a dog pepto. You’d be suprised at how many people would type “NEVER GIVE A DOG HUMAN MEDICINE! ITS FOR HUMANS NOT DOGS!” The only harm in giving a dog human medicine is giving it the wrong dosage. Many vets will give you a dosage chart for over the counter medicines to use if your dog needs them.
I guess it’s just something we all have to live with on this site. I personally read every answer to a question that I ask, no matter how many thumbs down it gets. The great thing about owning a dog is that it’s like raising a child. No one is going to do it the same, but there is always someone who thinks they can do it better.
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